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Saturday, December 1, 2012

Obamacare and the votes of the new "Moron Party" give us this

This is for all those single women who voted for their "messiah" and for free taxpayer paid for condoms.  Good hunting for a job.

Thanks MOM for the cartoon!

34 comments:

  1. You are a buffoon and have no idea what you are speaking about. If that is from your mom I understand why you hold the ideas that you do. I generally wouldn't comment about your personal life but it is part of the post. I am sure your mom is well intentioned but misinformed like so many who believe the leadership of the republican party share their interests.

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    1. BenE, you are too much. It appears you onc again are treading on topics you have no clue about. BTW, how much did you name cost the taxpayers since you withdrew from the race? Just curious.

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    2. Todd,
      Are you sure that you were a elected official? Your ignorance is astounding. My name being on the ballot cost the tax payers $0.00. It was your party reps LaMalfa, Neilson, and Logue who put the extra cost towards the taxpayers with the special election. The entitled in fighting of the party in control of the district caused the special election. I entered the race so we wouldn't have only two tea party candidates to choose from, luckily others had the same idea and the courage to enter the race. It was a very short window to file so when I called around other counties nobody knew of anyone that was for sure running outside of Neilson and Logue. So it was a last second decision to get the signatures and get on the ballot to give the voters at least one choice outside of the tea party, which represents only a small segment of people in the district and even less in the state and country. The filing fees cover the costs of printing name onto the ballot. The fact I am trying to push our government and the system that runs it to be more representative of the needs and interests of the people seems to go right over your head. It shows how you think of "OUR" government is a game not something to participate in, just talk trash and make bets on while we lose more and more control over the very system "We the People" are supposed to own.

      I feel bad for you since it appears that you feel so helpless that you invest your energy defending and promoting a completely corrupt and anti-democratic institution called the republican party.

      As for Obamacare it was a compromise to an industry that should have very little say in the peoples house called our government. It was a compromise to big business and put some band aids onto a corrupt and immoral health care system that increases profits the more people become sick. Not a very good incentive to keep people healthy is it? I forget how many millions in lobbying were being spent during the whole staged debate but it was astronomical, somewhere in the $320,000,000 million range from the health insurance industry alone in the 111th congress. Big Pharma probably matched that number if not exceeded the $320 million. A total of $7,000,000,000 billion in official registered lobbying for the 111th congress. My guess at least equal amount unofficially is spent. We are owned by big business and our economy, government, and country as a whole are a perfect example of what happens when corporations control the levers of power. It is called Fascism or Corporatism which ever you prefer. What our health care system has become is a legal drug pushing/ dealing industry with some actual health care on the side.

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    3. Ben Emery, fact is I was elected twice y my fellow citizens and you are just a wannabee. Lazy too it appears, chickened out on the Senate race and cost the taxpayers a bunch. I think you need re-education help. I am shocked at your ignorance about most things.

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    4. Todd,
      Are you really that dense or do you think people who stumble upon this blog are? First, I didn't create a special election, LaMalfa did when he left his office early to seek another office. Second, I never chickened out of anything but exercised some ethics of not campaigning against someone whom am organization I am a board member has business. The organization was more important than a long shot campaign. I don't expect you to understand. How many partisan offices have you held? My campaign in 2010 would be like you running in Pelosi's district as a Libertarian, what % do you think you would get against Pelosi and a Republican candidate? I will tell you, in 2010 the Libertarian got 2.5% with just under 5,000 votes. Our campaign got 7% with 23,000 votes. So shut the hell up you buffoon.

      If you don't want to take my word about the corrupt system how about fellow republican and former representative Mickey Edwards
      http://www.npr.org/2012/09/04/160541977/mickey-edwards-on-democracys-cancer

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    5. Ben Emery, I truly feel sorry for you. You must be one of the dumbest people on the blogs. You are an egoist who should be quiet. Every time you say something, run for something or do something, you flop. I would say you are the nut and should be quiet so as not to continue allowing all of us to see it so up close and personal. What a hoot!

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    6. Todd always has to have the last word because he's such a mature adult!

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    7. Todd,
      Once again you don't answer the question, how many partisan races did you win?

      I gave you a perfect example of what you would have done in a similar campaign in a Democratic stronghold like Pelosi's district. The fact is out of over 650 independent candidates running against a D and R our campaign only came second to one other in Montana. I didn't run for the Green Party but needed to run on their ballot line for access. The Green Party registration in the district was around 0.75 of 1%. We got nearly 7%. Without the REP after your name in a partisan race you would do much much worse than I did in a very solid republican district running with a GRN after mine. You are trying to compare apples to figs but when you compare apples to apples I come out way ahead.

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    8. Ben Emery, do you understand how ridiculous you sound? Apparently not. Who cares if a race is partisan or not when it comes to a win? You are a loser because you have decided it is better to lose with a bogus party then to expend the effort required to win as a D or an R. I get it. It is a mental issue.

      I would not run in a race as a Green because I do not believe in their crap. I most reflect R values. Though I do not agree with all their positions I know as an adult that a person has to bend a bit if they want to get some of their issues accomplished. You view is "I will never get a issue I care about" because you are lazy or stupid as a minor party member.

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    9. Todd,
      I didn't say for you to run as a green I said as a libertarian in a solid blue district.

      This actually shows your ignorance about partisan politics. A democrat or republican could run a monkey and that monkey would get around the registered % in numbers at least. The districts have gerrymandered to the point over 90% of incumbents retain their seats despite approval ratings of our congress for over a decade of being in the teens or even lower for the worst house in over a century, the tea party republican controlled 112th house received either a 9 or 10% approval rating. Yet they only lost a handful of seats. I will go back to my old rule of not engaging you in any dialogue because it is a waste of my time and energy, whether it be as alwaysright or what ever moniker of the day has become.

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    10. Ben Emery, why do you even try with this man? He's an obnoxious old construction worker who has lived in the same little town his entire life. He knows absolutely nothing of importance besides pounding nails. He offers nothing to political discussion outside of perpetuating the ignorance that can already be viewed on Fox News.

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  2. Completely silly.

    But good for the free condoms. We don't need any more knuckleberries.

    M.

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    1. I have retunk this and I think we need to give more condoms to the moron party members. That way their lineage stops at them. Hopefully BenE takes my advice.

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  3. Conservative in exileDecember 2, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    And "they" said insurance costs wouldn't go up. You should see the nice little
    "informative" letter I just got from my insurance Co. My payments just went up 20.65%, and the letter states the sole reason for the hike is,,, Yes!! YOU guessed it!! Obummer care mandates.
    Remember when that lying Son of a B!$@H stood in front of the camera and stated " Your premiums will NOT go up one dime."

    So who really is the "buffoon" Ben,? Maybe the people that took the bait and re elected the second coming of Billy Mays? " AS SEEN ON TV!!!!" " Get your discount ,,if not totally free,, health care! ( just vote for me!)

    Someone needs to head on over to Wikipedia and add "foolish idiot" to the definition of Progressive liberal Democrat.

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    1. You don't need to feel like you are in exile. I will do a post on the R's owning the legislatures and governships across America. The state are in our control (majorettes).

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    2. Is the reason for rate increases due to the new mandates or is that just the excuse being used by the insurance companies to further gouge the public and then blame Obama for it? I wouldn't put it past them, profit before people is the credo of corporate America. It is like Walmart who provides information on how to get food stamps for its employees because they don't get paid enough to survive without them while the owners complain about entitlements for the poor? Now Walmart is changing its health care plan and shifting those costs onto the taxpayer as well. Does anyone on these blogs really know what they are talking about? It seems more like playground bullies trying to out shout each other than a discussion of ideas. It's all pretty juvenile if you ask me (no pun intended).

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    3. Since you were not to disrespectful I allowed your anonymous comment.here. Regarding the insurance costs. I remember when my folks had medical back in the 50's and 60's and it was affordable and the family was covered. Hospitals were charging $100 bucks a day. Theo things started to change. Government do-gooders started passing laws requiring insurance companies to cover things and hospitals to treat anyone and everyone. Then Medicare and Medicaid came into being and the rest is history. Costs have increased every year and the government and politicians response? Pass more regulations and drive the costs even higher.

      As an example a 26 year old adult is now a child again! The companies are required thru OCare to cover them. You think this is a free lunch? P re-exisitng conditions are to be covered. You think that is a free lunch? Basic economics in the case of health insurance is totally disregarded and the government mandates are the reason. Free Enterprise would fix all this (along with the death of a trial lawyers) so if you want a fix and lower costs, let me be in charge for two years and I will fix it.

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    4. News flash for you. The greed of "free enterprise" in using the insane system we set up is what bankrupted the healthcare system.

      SINGLE PAYOR is really the only way to put an end to this, and everyone knows it.

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    5. Payor? Or is it Payer? I do not support socialized medicine and free enterprise is the answer. More free, more enterprise. More coverage less cost.

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    6. "Free enterprise" and basic human rights such as healthcare cannot function together. Healthcare cannot be efficiently and fairly provided when the motive of maximum profits is dominant. Did you not hear what I just wrote? GREED with the corrupted "free enterprise" system we have in place is what has contributed the most to out of control healthcare costs. You want only the wealthy to have access to proper healthcare.

      The 1% lost in this last election. Do you get it? They Lost. As will John Boehner and Co. Just a matter of days until the big CAVE on taxes. The Suntanned One is in the process of working on his speech of justification.

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    7. The one percent? What is that? I think the left has deluded themselves into a fantasy world. Politics is a fluctuating thing. We kicked your butts in 2000, 2004 and 2010. You returned the favor by a slim margin this time. So, before you toast the champagne you may want to do a bitof critical study.

      Oh and when the taxes your democrat pals shoved down Americans throats (your 99%) kick in in January, you will be screaming like a meme. Irony is so fun sometimes.

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    8. Knowing that the 2% should really bear the largest burden of new taxation, if my taxes go up temporarily, or permanently, I will pay them without argument. We need revenue to go along with cuts that won't destroy our social safety nets. Yes, I am an American Citizen Patriot that knows we are all in this together. Me, you and everyone else. We were all part of allowing an idiotic, and arguably criminal, administration of President W to bamboozle us into cutting taxes and spending a trillion dollars on the unfunded, immoral war in Iraq. We all share the blame of allowing this to happen. Add in the fact that all of us sat quietly while the high crimes and misdemeanors of the Wall Street crowd were perpetrated, cratering the economy later in the decade. We are all at fault for our debt crisis, and allowing politicians to reject stimulus measures for job growth.

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    9. But we are not all in this toether. 50% don't pay Federal Income Taxes. So the other 50% pay it all. Also the top 20% pay 90% so they are already paying their fair share. Every American has to pay something or the place will fail.

      Regarding GW Bush. You people still have Bush Derangement Syndrome.So when you say these ridiculous things about he and Cheney you lose all your crdibitiy on any tpic. A conspiract nut is what you come across as. So, if you think the "birthers" are nutty I would suggest you look in the mirror and admit BDS.

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  4. Well said Todd, Moron Party has a nice ring to it besides being spot on with the semantics. And heaven knows, they demonstrate the moniker's validity day after day.

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    1. Oh, yes, because the calling the Democratic Party the "Moron Party" is so adult, professional and open-minded to the country working together. Give me a break.

      I don't know about all Republicans, but you - George - and Todd are certainly petty little children.

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  5. Moron Party has a nice ring to it Todd; well said. And they confirm the semantic of that moniker with each passing day.

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  6. Well said Todd, Moron Party has a nice ring to it besides being spot on with the semantics. And heaven knows, they demonstrate the moniker's validity day after day.

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  8. I am trying to "understand" all of this free market stuff and how it's so good....

    I've been diabetic since I was 16yo and I'm 52 now. During this time period I have (most of the time) managed my own healthcare which has cost me @$800-1,200 per month, but in the past 10 years this coverage is not an option as I am self employed and the insurance companies tell me that I have a "pre-existing condition".

    I have not been eligible for any type of prescription based coverage, so I have been buying my insulin and other medications from a Candianan based pharmacy company which saves me @$200-300 per month (and many time my medications are shipped from the UK or Canada), but they are manufactured by a US based company in the USA.

    How does this work, as there are millions of people like me who, based on the current parameters can't get insurance. 2 years ago I had a low blood sugar episode at work (I was there as a independent contractor) so I have a $14,000 bill to pay, which I am working down, but many people who do not have a well paying job would just walk away from this bill, leaving the rest of us holding the bag.

    I'm also trying to understand as you state that hospitals back in the 50-60's were charging $100 per day, but if you consider that gas was $.27 a gallon back then, and gas is now $3.50 per gallon now. This would mean that @2,200 would be a reasonable number now for a day in the hospital. Many times this is a accurate number (But not with the testing that's available now).

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    1. Well I am proud of you for taking on your healthcare so far and not asking the government (taxpayers) to uderwrite it. The cost of living on the planet includes our healthcare. I have a pre existing condition as well and pay for my own medication. I have a catastrophic policy with a high deductible which covers Emergencies and hospitals. It is just an expense every month, just like a car payment or a house payment.

      Obamacare is a total joke. It will cost you mre than you pay now and the three thousand pages are being turned in to 100,000 plus pages of regulations as we speak. Hold on to your wallet.

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  9. Todd,

    I have no choice as I cannot get any insurance (unless I want to give the insurance companies 65% of my take home pay) at a reasonable rate.

    This is a problem as I can handle all of my own stuff as I do have a very good paying job (and crappy insurance from the company - first $8K is yours), but if I have a major problem then I will be forced into the ranks of the walk away crowd. I will not be able to cover a $90-100K issue and I'll end up doing the BK thing which then passes this to everyone else on the pool, so is it "smarter" (from a business perspective) to make insurance more affordable for everyone, and get lots of people in the pool, or have hospitals pass along the cost of people who walk away to everyone else? I think it's better to have everyone get involved (to cover major issues), control costs, and make it work......

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    1. I would suggest you seek the opinions of some local healthcare experts like Anthony Halby. He may be able to help.

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  10. Thanks for the suggestion!

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Real name thank you.