A place we can discuss, bloviate and debate issues and topics of interest.
Don't complain, it's the free market supply and demand, except for the frackers. They are exempt from Brown's water restrictions. If you want to be pissed be mad at the frackers. They used 80 millions gallons of water last year during the worst drought in history. We need the water much worse than the oil they are getting. There is plenty of oil in the world right now, but no water in California. You should thank the Koch brothers.
I love the frackers and the Koch's. You should too. 80 million gallons is nothing compared to what flows into the ocean through the Delta every year. And we need the oil. You anti oil people forget that oils also is used to create a lot of the computer parts you use to spread your falsehoods. And it is part of the Subaru you drive to the protest hearings of Occupy Wall Street you so love.
Oh, 80 million gallons is 246 acre feet. About 1/3 of a square mile one foot deep. Get outraged at what really matters next time. Maybe the lack of storage and electricity generation by hydro?
We are sitting on a gold mine here in GV. It is full of water and only needs a little filtration.
Maybe NID can figure out how to tap the Empire? And all the rest?
What's interesting is that whenever a mine wants to reopen, all the homeowners get upset that when the mines pump the water out of the tunnels the homes will lose their well water. But the enviro's claim that same water is polluted with dangerous chemicals...BMW
The fact that the San Juan Mine, then Siskon, never let a property owner go without water via the permit does not get any credit. When they hit the fissure and affected 11 wells, they drilled deeper and returned them to production. Then we hear about the school's well. It was a problem long before the mine but the URBAN myth is the mine caused it. Oh well, all these people that hate mining gold sure use a lot of it.
A little filtering? Do you people have any idea how polluted mine water is? Why do you think Newmont agreed to a multi-million dollar settlement with Grass Valley over toxic discharge?
Well since you know please tell us all how polluted it is.
do you have any idea how toxic sewage is? ever heard of activated carbon and reverse osmosis?
Of course but please tell the readers what is in the water from the mine since you seem to claim you know.
mercury, arsenic, selenium, asbestos, lead, cyanide -- when water is added to mine tailings you get sulfuric acid.. ever seen the golden brown scum in local waterways. Try going down to memorial park by the children's playground. Why is the stream fenced off with signs warning people to stay out of the water, don't eat the fish, don't play in the mud, etc etc? Toxic pollutants from the empire mine...
So those are from the Empire Mine? Do you have a link for your assertions on the Empire Mine's water? I grew up playing in that stream at the park and no one I know has ever been poisoned by it. Can you explain that?
Get real Todd.. do you think half of the mine property and the stream that runs through the park are fenced just for fun? Do you think the warnings on local waterways on limiting wild fish consumption is just government intrusion? The fact that you don't know anyone who was poisoned is because no health records related to toxicity have ever been kept. Do you know anyone who has or died from cancer? It is highly possible that if they lived near an abandoned mine their cancer could have been caused by mine related toxins. There are a couple of local studies currently going on testing people's blood to see how many pollutants are in them and correlating that with mine proximity. As for a "link".. do your own homework you might learn something. There have been numerous articles in the local paper and elsewhere about the Empire mine's toxic problems. Any local who reads the paper knows this or are you just more comfortable with your head in the sand..
Thanks for proving to the readers that you have nothing of proof but a lot of hot air. I asked you simple questions to back up your allegations and you can't find any. Therefore you are simply ignorant and react emotionally. So, I will boot any further responses from you until you identify yourself. You have mnade a complete fool of yourself.
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You want to name call me then you must identify yourself truthfully.
To understand the viability of filtering we would have to compare it to the costs of desal. plants per unit of water. If we had built storage in proportion to our population growth in the last few decades we would not be in such a dire situation. The folks who fought any storage project are the same ones who think the smelt is a societal priority for our limited resources. Thanks for that progressive enlightened world view, NOT!
The educated ignorance is profound and discouraging nowadays. Loved the common sense observations of Mr. Kopf. http://www.mcguiresplace.net/Stories-Water%20is%20Gold
No naked links.
Real name thank you.