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Saturday, March 22, 2014

Pelosi and Van Hollen put lipstick on a pig, defend ObamaCare

Pelosi's face lift is failing! Just like her lies! LOL!
I watched and listened to these two democrat lovelies last week and just shook my head in sadness.  HERE is the 42 minute news conference from C-SPAN.  If you listen to these two you will understand why America is in deep trouble.  These are the "leaders" of their party in the House.  My goodness, Pelosi was third in line to the Presidency while Speaker of the House!  Watch her gestures and her eyes while she bloviates.  I think she has a screw loose.

It takes a lot to shock me when it comes to politicians spouting off, but Pelosi and Van Hollen were way over the top when discussing ObamaCare.  If I was not aware of their deviousness beforehand, this press conference cemented my opinion on democrats.  There were only about five members of the "stenographer press" in attendance and other than a couple of real questions, the press dutifully wrote down the lies for future publication.  Almost everything these two shysters said was a fib.  They were touting the number of enrollees but when asked to prove it they could not.  They say there are five million but when asked for the actual number who paid they dodged and changed the subject. 

No question was asked about the five to seven million people whose insurance has been canceled.  Not one question about the veracity of the websites security.  Pelosi/Van Hollen did their best to manipulate the actual costs of the plans people are now saddled with under the ObamaCare umbrella.  Almost everyone that has spoken up about their attempts to sign up have experience large increases in the monthly payment and huge increases in the deductibles.  Pelosi said the prices decreed yet had no proof.  She and that other obfuscator, Senator Harry Reid, contend any criticism of ObamaCare is being spewed by liars. All ten million apparently.  Reid was the Senator telling the world on the Senate floor that Romney paid no taxes because he knew he could not be sued for slander (what a dirtbag).   I guess American in general just can't tell the democrats the truth.  Even democrats!



A reporter asked Pelosi a question towards the end of the news/liar conference and used the term ObamaCare.  Pelosi went on a rant that it was the "Affordable Care Act" and repeated that numerous times which I guess she thought would drive it into the skulls of the five reporters.  The reporter said, "but President Obama has called it ObamaCare" to which Pelosi, in Orwellian manner stated  it was now the ACA and you sit down little shit.  It was almost funny if it were not so ridiculous.


I have some acquaintances (not blood related) who have attempted to get signed up.  After many days of trying they finally got through and after filling out the paperwork were told their policies would be this amount and the deductible this amount.  Both were substantially higher, more than twice as much, as they had been paying!  Also, I know many young people who are not signing up because they don't want to.  They need the money for food and rent and the ObamaCare website numbers released so far prove that the young are not signing up.  The young will pay the "John Roberts" tax penalty and use the rest too buy food and shelter.  The other huge lie Pelosi etal are telling America about the numbers has to do with Medicaid.  Now when someone doesn't qualify for the straight ObamaCare plan the people are directed to Medicaid.  So, the poor who could not pay for healthcare before ObamaCare are now still receiving a full ride on Medicaid, all on the taxpayer dime.  Pelosi is including these people as part of the signups!


It would appear that with all the lipstick Pelosi and the democrat party are putting on this ObamaCare pig, thirty million are still uninsured!  Wasn't the deal they sold (without one Republican vote) and utilized graft to pass, that all Americans would be covered?  Why blow up the greatest and best healthcare system the word has ever known?  Simply a power grab and we all told you so.  Now when you listen to Pelosi/Van Hollen lie through their teeth in this press conference you will have some benchmarks to go by.  I have come to understand that regardless of your political affiliation, these democrats could care less about anything but themselves.  They are trying to fool us all again with these lies and I suggest you at least be skeptical.

America is waking up to the democrat party lies about this important usurpation of the individual's rights and I think they will pay a heavy price in November.  Unless of course the Republicans don't keep up the pressure by making the democrats defend the ObamaCare fiasco.  So please listen to the press conference and if you do you will kick these people's asses out of power.

41 comments:

  1. Dammit Todd ....that photo needs a warning!!! I can't unsee that!

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  2. I almost expect another smaller set of Pelosi fangs to spring out of her mouth like the monster from the Alien franchise!

    I need a cocktail!

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  3. I think she was the inspiration for Blade Three, Trinity!

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  4. Todd,
    Here is a CA bill we should agree on but I get the feeling somehow you will flip flop on your disclosure position. Every Republican either voted "no" or abstained. Two Democrats did not vote, of course the vote lost by one vote. There is one more change at passing this bill. Join me and sign the petition.

    SB 27- Stop dark money non-profits from hiding their funders!
    http://www.caclean.org/petition?ref=ne:email-sb27-2014-03-24a&name=sb27

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    1. Done and done Ben.....!

      Hello Xxxxx,

      Thank you for signing the petition for SB 27. You'll get occasional emails from the California Clean Money Campaign telling you other key steps you can take to fight Big Money in politics.

      We need as many signatures as possible. Can you share it with your friends on Facebook?



      One quibble though....the website says that if the petition is signed "more qualified and more diverse candiates" will be able to run. In my travels I've found that as a practical matter those descriptions are largely incompatible.

      While I have your attention....why is Associate Bob so obsessed about a small political sign at the chamber of commerce....if he had kept his pie hole shut nobody from either end of the political spectrum would have even noticed.

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    2. Well Tater head Ben Emery I checked the bill out and I think I will take a pass. It is simply a democrat attempt to out donors doing a legal thing which is campaign finance. The votes were well over the majority so I assume this is a "super-majority" requirement. If the democrats wanted ot it would have passed. The Citizens United decision sits in the left's craw and this is just a way to squelch free speech. After I saw you liberals outing the petition signers on Prop 8 for the purpose of intimidation I decided no disclosure under the non-profits and PACs was a goo idea. Besides, a good government /shine the light by our democrat oligarchs in California is a toital joke.

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  5. Do I dare say we might have two agreements.

    Casting Sunlight on Secret Government and Its Contractors
    http://www.newsdump.com/news/ralph-nader-casting-sunlight-on-secret-government-and-its-contractors

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    1. All this bill does is to out PAC and 501 donors. It is a method of legal intimidation. I cannot support it.

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  6. Todd,

    I'm surprised you haven't posted todays CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY IRONY ALERT .....noted democratic politician and fervent gun controller Leland Yee busted for gun running and money laundering.

    Gonna be a good day Tater!

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    1. fish, Yee is in trouble eh? He must be sleeping with Rosie O'Donnell. I'll go read the story.

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    2. Here is the San Jose Mercury News story on Yee. What a guy! Ben Emery, how would your SB 27 deal with this?

      http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25428957/state-sen-leland-yee-indicted-arms-trafficking-corruption

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  7. Yee, just as almost all politicians that have been elected as Democrats or Republicans are corrupt. The parties have made bribery and corruption legal. So what will happen is a slap a wrist. What I think should happen is, if proven to be true he should be forced to resign and indicted if any laws were broken.

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    1. Interesting....that gun running as an anti gunner and money laundering as an enthusiastic "tax and spender" is merely garden variety political corruption in Ben Emerys world.

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    2. Ben Emery, based on your statement about corruption of both party's you should be a Tea Party supporter extraordinaire! They are anti corruption so you would fit in perfectly.

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  8. Fish,
    If you dig into almost any politician, especially within the leadership i.e. committee member of either party you will find this form of corruption. Diane Feinstein family made hundreds of millions off our invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. Dennis Hastert made millions in land deals. The list is endless but these were sort of publicized corruption that nothing really happened.

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    1. Ben Emery, your pal Yee was buying and selling guns while publicly being anti Second Amendment. He was selling AK's!

      I always take the complaints that all politicians are corrupt very lightly. Sure there are bad apples. Having been an honest one myself and actually knowing some others I can say most have good values and intentions. Perhaps you should look in the mirror and ask yourself a few questions about yourself.

      Some people cheat on their taxes, some take an extra writeoff for something they do not deserve. Some don't get a permit and some cheat on applications for unemployment or child meals at school. Any of this sound familiar? You see, a politician who you elect is really just the same as you. Maybe they are bad people fooling the voters or maybe they are good people caught up in things they have no control of. In politics perception is reality and no matter what the honest person does he is branded by you as a crook. So, you get what you want Ben Emery, a countless and constant source of "foils" for your perception.

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    2. Fish,
      If you dig into almost any politician, especially within the leadership i.e. committee member of either party you will find this form of corruption. Diane Feinstein family made hundreds of millions off our invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. Dennis Hastert made millions in land deals. The list is endless but these were sort of publicized corruption that nothing really happened.


      Again yours is a rather anodyne response to the subject under discussion. Arch anti gun democratic legislator turns out to be (or will quite likely to turn out to be) an active participant in gun running and you respond with the generic they're all crooked line. Todds right...you should be a Tea Partier if you are concerned about this sort of thing....they are the only group currently even hinting at the "populism" that you claim to want.

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  9. Todd,
    One more example on how you are a Republican shill. Many times you and I have conversed on this issue and you have always stated that you support full disclosure in campaign financing. In my opinion the Democrats brought it to the floor and voted party lines on the issue is because they knew they didn't have the numbers to pass it. They know very well who is going to vote which way on bills so to bring this to the floor the way they did tells me they don't really support the idea but wanted to use it as a way to differentiate between the two parties or in other words a backseat wedge issue.

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    1. Republican shill? No Ben Eery, I am a Republican and I support most of the policies. You are the shill for anarchy and chaos, I consider that a lot more dangerous.

      Regarding the vote on SB27. I certainly agree with you GASP! on why the vote went as it did. As a person who worked for Assemblyman Bernie Richter in 1996 for a bit I can tell you that you are absolutely correct. That is what a "whip" does for the majority party. They know how the vote will go before the vote. The democrats have run the legislature all my 63 years except 1996. So they have refined their voting very well.

      All you need to do is watch a little CSPAN and you will see we are a really a partisan country. Very little if any crossover on votes on almost any issue. If you want to change that I would suggest you get elected as a Green or PandF and go there and point it out.

      You could do the same thing though if you ran a democrat and had the support of a party. That is how you change things. Not like you swinging at windmills and crying how bad things are. Try the democrat party, change them and get something done that you favor. Or sit on the sidelines and whine and cry and point fingers.

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  10. Todd,
    "Not like you swinging at windmills and crying how bad things are. Try the democrat party, change them and get something done that you favor."

    Sounds a bit like the loyalists during the revolutionary times. The Whigs in the 1820's. The two parties are no longer worth trying to save because they have gone to far down the road of corruption. I would say the Democratic Party is a bit better but is a lost cause. I only came to this conclusion after 2010 election. I have always voted for candidates not political parties but tried to support the Democratic Party until a couple years into the Obama administration. Getting a very small glimpse inside our political system and seeing how very dysfunctional it really works has converted me from a party reformer to a system reformer. All this being said I have never stopped working with groups trying to get the reform through the two parties that continue to control our government. As we agreed on with how SB 27 vote went down, it is a sham that either party really cares what average people think unless we are willing not to vote for their party while challenging them from the outside at the same time.

    Here is a clip from a couple Democratic Party insiders, Lawrence O'Donnell and William Greider.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B37zCueHfFM

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    1. Too bad yopu are chasing windmills. But I have met people like you before and they like to portray themselves as rebels and hanging with losing propositions so they can dodge true responsibility for making change. You have that malady Ben Emery.

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  11. Yep, I wouldn't expect anything different from you. The funny thing is Frisch is practically on the same page with you on this one. There is a movement at hand right now that puts my position in the plurality. The two parties have rigged the system so no competition from a third party can actually get any traction. With the Obama administration being so horrible and with the Tea Party being marginalized within the Republican Party my guess we will see new party or an opening up of our electoral system within the next decade. Women's suffrage took over 120 years, labor rights took over a 100 years, ending corporate influence over our government is over a 100 years and about to become reality, and fight for a more inclusive electoral system therefore a more diverse government of ideas is around 40 years old and growing stronger every year. Without Eugene Debs and the movement he was the figure head of the major reforms of the 20th century wouldn't have taken place.

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    1. Well Ben Emery, I live in "realville" and if there is a proble with politics in the good old USA it is the people who are the problem. You think we should have a British Parliamentary system? Well guess what, even they are down to three parties and it is only this last election in 2012 I think, that the Liberals (a small political party) coaltioned with the Conservatives and booted Labour out. There are hundreds of political parties in Britain but it boils down to three. And that is what the people want.

      If the people want that type of chaos here then they will make it happen. It is all about the people choosing to pay attention and even just voting for goodness sakes. So Ben Emery, look in the mirror and you will see the problem with America staring right back at you. You are a Jerry Springer country now, and you get or reap what you have sown. Wanna change things? Then get involved and get real. You are a naive rabbit chaser.

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    2. Todd,
      I have belonged to a groups that has been trying to get legislation and propositions passed that would have public financing of campaigns and full disclosure of campaign donations for over 20 years. I am just a grunt guy who canvasses, phone banks, shows up for meetings, and tries to get others involved but none the less I am a working class schmo that gave up many many hours of his free time for such issues.

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    3. Ben Emery, congrats on your volunteer efforts. Isn't America great? Unfortunately it sounds like you are pursuing a deadend and should perhaps regroup.

      Back i the mid nineties I knew a man named Don Qrnell now deceased. He was a retired aerospace fellow living in Alta Sierra with his wife. He was unhappy with the roads of the county and decided to do something about it. He contacted me as I was running CABPRO at the time and we talked about his issue. I said let's do an initiative! He and I and John Langdon and another man formes a group to do one. I wrote the initiative (this is the first time I have outed myself about this), Don and I went through it many times and had a local attorney fine tune it. Well we got it on the ballot and my goodness it passed! Of course the bureaucracy was opposed but we managed to put another two plus million on county roads ever since.

      I am just a middle class fellow, nothing special, but I was motivated and it worked. You can do it too. No excuses. If you try harder you may succeed.

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  12. Really Ben? I think you are full of sh*t that "Frisch is practically on the same page as you on this one". I am a strong supporter of publicly financed elections, instant reporting, limits on both individual and corporate donations, and transparency in reporting for PAC's.

    Only a political neophyte would define "Two Democrats did not vote, of course the vote lost by one vote." in a 2/3 majority voting situation as Democrats killing the bill. My problem with your position is that when you characterize the people who are putting the idea within one vote of winning as corrupt charlatans you are sure to alienate your allies....like me.

    Finally, debating the issue here is like two pigs taking a shower in a mud hole...you should know better.

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    1. Twp pigs eh? You and Ben? Certainly not we intelligent folks. Too funny.

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  13. Finally, debating the issue here is like two pigs taking a shower in a mud hole...you should know better.

    Shouldn't you be out barbecuing an Eloi instead of whining about the debating style here Steve?

    Remember Associate Bob is always available for you to gaze up at adoringly over at his place!

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  14. Steve,
    Then how would one interpret these comments that once again coincidentally followed a comment of mine on public financing of campaigns?

    "We should live in peace, everyone should have a guaranteed minimum annual income, public educations should be free, and every child should have health care.

    Wait….is it morning?….did I wake up?…..damn!"

    "I am not ‘threatened’ by your comment Ben, I just think it is fine to think a think should be, and another thing for a thing to be."

    Practically you are saying the same thing as Todd, my head is in the clouds for advocating, working towards, and being an activist towards problems that have workable solutions. Steve you are smart man that knows how reforms are created so it is beyond me you are taking the role of the person telling the Civil Rights Movement to slow down, you're moving to fast. Every major reform had those like yourself being the pessimist saying it can't happen and you are going about it wrong. History tells a much different story.

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    1. Ben your adoration if the big Truckee fellow is too funny. His nose is way up the arse of the worst divider in our community and that has to tell you something. But hey, If that floats your boars to give false praise, who am I to stop you?

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  15. ...worst divider in the community? Did someone call me? I am here, working on my eighth story about the Chamber of Commerce, that horrible collection of local small businesses that refuse to be intimidated by my immense outrage about their landlord's political endorsements. Did I tell you that I am not a member of the Chamber? How dare they not listen to me! The most despised non-member in the area. Do they let other non members tell them what to do, or is it just me they choose to ignore? Why does no one like me? It's not fair! If you undereducated good old boys don't start listening to me, I might go back to Berkeley. And take my boat with me. And my shithead attitude about Nevada County. Or maybe I'll move to Oregon and beg Jeff Ackerman to give me another chance. LOL!

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  16. 18 U.S. Code, Chapter 63, Section 1342

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    1. Michael, so this is what your chapter says.

      "Whoever, for the purpose of conducting, promoting, or carrying on by means of the Postal Service, any scheme or device mentioned in section 1341 of this title or any other unlawful business, uses or assumes, or requests to be addressed by, any fictitious, false, or assumed title, name, or address or name other than his own proper name, or takes or receives from any post office or authorized depository of mail matter, any letter, postal card, package, or other mail matter addressed to any such fictitious, false, or assumed title, name, or address, or name other than his own proper name, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. "

      Am I to assume you are using the postal service for a crime?

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  17. Todd, why do you hate art so much?

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    1. I love art, especially the art i create. Why do you ask?

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    2. Todd just who is this Art that Michael is going on about?

      (i kid...i kid)

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    3. Art? Oh, he is his economic advisory. The three employees are too much a burden so Art helps.

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  18. I stand corrected. You are an art lover. Carry on, my wiley mountain dilettante.

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  19. I sell magazines about food, booze and art. I know a lot about art. I know a lot about everything. Just ask me! LOL!

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Real name thank you.